【発狂】生成AIの対策検討 岸田総理「国際的なルール作り主導を」
838: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:48:48.32 ID:gOdsDHS2
「生成AI」対応策検討 岸田首相 “国際的なルール作り主導を”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20230511/amp/k10014063741000.html
日本はAIの法がゆるいー学習は合法だーとか言ってた馬鹿息してるー?wwwww
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20230511/amp/k10014063741000.html
日本はAIの法がゆるいー学習は合法だーとか言ってた馬鹿息してるー?wwwww
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840: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:50:24.65 ID:/+ulhO7P
>>838
これからルール作りしていくってことだろ。AIを活用する以上学習が禁じられることは100%無いが?
これからルール作りしていくってことだろ。AIを活用する以上学習が禁じられることは100%無いが?
843: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:52:18.20 ID:6ciyauk2
>>838
そりゃ主導しないと好き勝手やられるから主導したいとは言うだろ。
日本の苦手なところだから難しいと思うけど。
そりゃ主導しないと好き勝手やられるから主導したいとは言うだろ。
日本の苦手なところだから難しいと思うけど。
841: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:50:54.31 ID:/+ulhO7P
むしろ政府が AIに対して積極的なのは好ましいこと
844: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:53:05.20 ID:d2habrnq
学習が合法な状況は何も変わってないじゃん
自分にとってポジティブな材料が出ただけで、完全勝利確定みたいな全振りする奴ってアホなん?
自分にとってポジティブな材料が出ただけで、完全勝利確定みたいな全振りする奴ってアホなん?
846: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:53:30.40 ID:gOdsDHS2
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847: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:53:34.81 ID:r8xabaoe
いつもどんくさい日本にしては動きが早ねぇ
853: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:56:53.73 ID:zy2YP7Nz
生成AIってchatgptとか対話型AIのことが中心やろ
生成AIの記事でお絵描きAIのこととか見たこと無いぞ
生成AIの記事でお絵描きAIのこととか見たこと無いぞ
860: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:58:53.93 ID:gOdsDHS2
>>853
記事見たー?wwwww
>文書や画像を自動的に作り出す「生成AI」への対応策
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記事見たー?wwwww
>文書や画像を自動的に作り出す「生成AI」への対応策
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873: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:10:30.29 ID:zy2YP7Nz
>>860
うん
画像いうてもいろいろあるやろ
犯罪に直結するとか社会に混乱を与えるとか誰かに危害を加えるとかな
パクリパクられがそれらと同等に扱われるとはワイは思わんわ
うん
画像いうてもいろいろあるやろ
犯罪に直結するとか社会に混乱を与えるとか誰かに危害を加えるとかな
パクリパクられがそれらと同等に扱われるとはワイは思わんわ
856: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 11:57:19.45 ID:6ciyauk2
これこそゼロイチ思考だよな。
規制っていってもとてつもないグラデーションがあるのに
規制っていってもとてつもないグラデーションがあるのに
863: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:00:21.67 ID:gOdsDHS2
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864: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:01:07.82 ID:/+ulhO7P
どんな対応がされるかは見守ることしかできないね
まぁ小銭稼ぎは規制されるだろ。規制すべきとは思わんが、規制しないと学習禁止にしろ!みたいに飛び火しかねんしな
まぁ小銭稼ぎは規制されるだろ。規制すべきとは思わんが、規制しないと学習禁止にしろ!みたいに飛び火しかねんしな
865: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:01:34.90 ID:OCFyCz0a
ほんと反AIってこんな感じのパッションだけで生きてるんやな
866: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:02:09.64 ID:gOdsDHS2
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872: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:06:10.35 ID:d2habrnq
明日から有識者集めて利活用とリスクを検討する会議やります
って報道見て
画像AI生成違法確定、AI絵師涙目でお気持ち連発でイライラwww
ってなるとは思わんぞ
って報道見て
画像AI生成違法確定、AI絵師涙目でお気持ち連発でイライラwww
ってなるとは思わんぞ
875: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:11:56.64 ID:iab34V49
結局は金と政治なんだから、国と企業がどう考えるかが全てなのにな
そいつらにとって生成AIを違法化するメリットはなにか?を考えたら
そうとう頓珍漢な事を言ってると理解出来そうなんだが
オタクの狭い界隈を見て勝利宣言してるのは面白いなと思う
そいつらにとって生成AIを違法化するメリットはなにか?を考えたら
そうとう頓珍漢な事を言ってると理解出来そうなんだが
オタクの狭い界隈を見て勝利宣言してるのは面白いなと思う
885: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:25:23.91 ID:FqM0IObI
>>875
画像で一番問題になるのはディープフェイクでしょ
冤罪を作り出すことが可能なんだから政治家は真っ先に潰すはず
画像で一番問題になるのはディープフェイクでしょ
冤罪を作り出すことが可能なんだから政治家は真っ先に潰すはず
889: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:29:57.78 ID:iab34V49
>>885
そうだよ、国防や治安維持に関係するからね
で、それがAIイラスト違法化とどう繋がるのって話なんだが
そうだよ、国防や治安維持に関係するからね
で、それがAIイラスト違法化とどう繋がるのって話なんだが
879: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:15:24.83 ID:OCFyCz0a
逆にこれでほんとに日本だけはイラストAI規制きたら怖いな
アニメどころか絵まで中国に外注する暗黒時代がくる
どうなるやら
アニメどころか絵まで中国に外注する暗黒時代がくる
どうなるやら
894: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:34:48.91 ID:weFM19bn
>>879
それな
規制したって中国に負けるだけ
日本の作品の作画の外注するどころか中国の作品そのものに負ける可能性がある
それな
規制したって中国に負けるだけ
日本の作品の作画の外注するどころか中国の作品そのものに負ける可能性がある
895: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:35:14.48 ID:mlfC9KSs
>>879
中国の方が既にAI規制進んでるんですがそれは
中国の方が既にAI規制進んでるんですがそれは
896: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:36:01.31 ID:weFM19bn
>>895
それよく言ってるけど規制されてなくね?
渋とかで中国人画像生成AI使いまくってね?
それよく言ってるけど規制されてなくね?
渋とかで中国人画像生成AI使いまくってね?
880: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:19:17.03 ID:FCmDrEYl
一番怖いのはITに疎い人がAIをなんでもできる魔法の道具と勘違いして人件費削減した結果元々あった人の技術すらなくなることだよな
884: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:23:56.03 ID:g2hXsHCg
AIへの投資規模は800兆円ってモルガン・スタンレーは予想してるし日本はあやかりたいよなぁそりゃ。
888: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:29:55.48 ID:rd4aCqJz
AIを活用していくためのルール作り
始まって良かったじゃん
ホウセイビーホウセイビー
始まって良かったじゃん
ホウセイビーホウセイビー
890: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:30:13.75 ID:d2habrnq
つーかむしろ
無断学習について「みんな嫌がってるから」ぐらいの、ふわっとした大義名分しか無い状態で
方針を決める会議が始まろうとしてることに危機感持った方がいいと思うぞ
無断学習について「みんな嫌がってるから」ぐらいの、ふわっとした大義名分しか無い状態で
方針を決める会議が始まろうとしてることに危機感持った方がいいと思うぞ
892: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:33:48.76 ID:mlfC9KSs
>>890
皆嫌がってるからじゃなくてマネロン、権利侵害、市場荒らし、フェイクの危険性とデメリット盛り沢山なのがしっかり証明されてきたからやで
皆嫌がってるからじゃなくてマネロン、権利侵害、市場荒らし、フェイクの危険性とデメリット盛り沢山なのがしっかり証明されてきたからやで
900: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:38:06.01 ID:d2habrnq
>>892
その材料が検討の場に持ち込まれるように見えんのよね
その状況がきっちり文書にまとめられて、有識者会議に提出される見込みあるの?
その材料が検討の場に持ち込まれるように見えんのよね
その状況がきっちり文書にまとめられて、有識者会議に提出される見込みあるの?
910: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:42:34.89 ID:mlfC9KSs
>>900
実際、渋もといFANBOXの声明は建前にしろマネロンや権利侵害やそもそもの創作の定義に焦点当てた結果って事で纏めてるし、お気持ちなんてふわっとした題材で会議してるわけではないだろ
同じことを有識者会議でやれば当然渋と同じか渋に近い答えが出るだろうよ
まさか芸術や技術、その周りの金銭問題や権利関係を理解してない人間が有識者として会議する訳じゃないだろうし
実際、渋もといFANBOXの声明は建前にしろマネロンや権利侵害やそもそもの創作の定義に焦点当てた結果って事で纏めてるし、お気持ちなんてふわっとした題材で会議してるわけではないだろ
同じことを有識者会議でやれば当然渋と同じか渋に近い答えが出るだろうよ
まさか芸術や技術、その周りの金銭問題や権利関係を理解してない人間が有識者として会議する訳じゃないだろうし
913: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:45:45.01 ID:d2habrnq
>>910
提出できる材料があれば別にいい
会議の場に出る見込みがあるなら、規制が検討に乗るかもね
としか今は
提出できる材料があれば別にいい
会議の場に出る見込みがあるなら、規制が検討に乗るかもね
としか今は
893: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:34:24.84 ID:gw1HqKIQ
なんかお前ら必死やな
規制が来ても生成趣味ならいいじゃん
規制が来ても生成趣味ならいいじゃん
897: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:36:13.86 ID:AL+vbpOI
ディープフェイクに規制が入ることとaiの学習そのものに規制が入るのは別だと思うけど
926: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:51:45.53 ID:dWepU8Iu
取り敢えず絵師LoRAの配布は制限が掛かると思う
931: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 12:55:39.00 ID:mh0czOjA
>>926
あれは名前ガッツリ出してるのがアカン所やな
あれは名前ガッツリ出してるのがアカン所やな
943: 名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。
2023/05/11(木) 13:07:00.08 ID:/mR7aE1l
これからAIイラストがどれだけ市場に食い込めるかが勝負だけど反AIが騒ぐから萎縮しているのが切ない
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