【反AI】権利が脅かされているとしてAIの法整備を訴えた絵師様　二次創作禁止作品のエロで稼いでいた事がバレて謝罪ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

2023年4月29日

1: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:33:38.50 ID:pM0Z2ags0NIKU

未来のクリエイターを守護る為に立ち上がった勇士による記者会見

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禁止されている二次創作行為がバレる

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2: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:34:58.43 ID:PxcnYAC10NIKU

こいつの親がかわいそう

4: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:36:09.79 ID:nahwvzZF0NIKU

2次ゴロが言うと説得力あるな

5: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:36:40.04 ID:WlTDETQt0NIKU

そう言えば今日群馬でG7の会合やっててAIの取り扱いについて議題になってたで

6: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:37:09.18 ID:hyww81RMaNIKU

エロ同人を描いてて堂々と顔を出せるのすごい

7: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:38:14.61 ID:c7ZHh+ja0NIKU

たぶんAI推進派なんやろこいつ
勇気あるわ

8: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:38:17.02 ID:SK5i1FpK0NIKU

な？「絵師」だろ？

11: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:39:31.71 ID:50ikMc8lMNIKU

クリエイター名乗ってるのかよ

13: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:40:29.07 ID:qxBANkeO0NIKU

あれ？
とうふさん？

15: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:40:37.25 ID:cyb2k44y0NIKU

なんで後ろめたいことやってる奴って正義感強いの

16: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:41:48.34 ID:NPXh/kyk0NIKU

そもそも二次創作界隈だってトレースで練習するんだしAIと同じでは？

17: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:42:03.42 ID:ZXlnJngP0NIKU

返信ツイートできないようにしてて草
セコイねぇ

https://twitter.com/5chan_nel (5ch newer account)

21: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:45:07.83 ID:Qv1jkxOP0NIKU

AI絵師だってただポン出ししてるわけじゃなくて自由時間や徹夜、有給使ってまで努力してるんだからそれを認めろ！
https://twitter.com/dreadnaughtdark/status/1651767008311271424

https://twitter.com/5chan_nel (5ch newer account)

24: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:48:14.85 ID:j+5KjuU0dNIKU

無能な味方定期

まぁ同人自体グレーな界隈やからクリーンな旗頭なんておらんよな🤣

25: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:48:37.42 ID:9f37HwxPMNIKU

二度と二次創作出来なくなっちゃったの笑える

26: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:49:02.28 ID:gwBikW2Q0NIKU

反AIの連中って頭おかしいヤツばっかよな

28: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:49:52.29 ID:Q5s6Q/2L0NIKU

大昔にやってたとかでもなくクッソ最近で草

29: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:51:27.30 ID:PxcnYAC10NIKU

大御所レベルが誰も反対してないのに同人ゴロの小物ばっか発狂してるのでお察しなのよ

38: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:57:02.45 ID:j+5KjuU0dNIKU

>>29
大御所はこの件に反応すること自体がリスクやし内心はともかく何も話せんと思うで

59: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:06:07.46 ID:9ifUsAe+0NIKU

>>29
反対表明したら頭おかしい奴らに凸されるやん

33: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:54:15.71 ID:vx0NOuJYMNIKU

誰に吹き込まれてこんな行動してるんだろうな

35: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:55:24.95 ID:ApnLO+pBdNIKU

もうこいつ金儲けできなくなってるの草
いやもともと下手な絵で金儲けてるか分からんけど

37: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:56:57.69 ID:0k6UarSgdNIKU

「コンテンツを盛り上げるために2次創作しました許してね」
ならAIによる創作の活発化も許容せなおかしいわ

41: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 13:58:11.33 ID:aQRN8VF/0NIKU

>>37
それ言うと今度はこいつら「AIに描かせるのは創作とは言わない！！」って発狂してくるで

44: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:01:17.13 ID:jl6iVDQX0NIKU

あんまり絵上手くなくね？

47: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:02:36.16 ID:CMG2EybjdNIKU

>>44
だからAIに発狂してるんやろ

45: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:01:56.63 ID:oMlq8llfdNIKU

これ反AIの本スレに貼るとスレ民発狂するからおもろい

51: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:04:30.68 ID:MNmwt5yFaNIKU

これこいつた謝罪したせいでAI叩く時は二次創作も叩かないかんくなったの草

53: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:04:35.65 ID:WY+G1e5PaNIKU

同人ゴロ「モラルを守れよ！！！！」

54: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:04:42.19 ID:QrZxOB9S0NIKU

ぶっちゃけAI絵使って金稼ぐことの何が問題なのかわからん
AI絵師がAI絵に対して著作権主張してるならまだしも著作権主張せず出力した著作権フリーのものを売ってるだけやろ？

86: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:15:00.92 ID:piX6suve0NIKU

>>54
イラストで生計立ててるやつが困るやん！
それだけの話やで

57: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:05:03.10 ID:PYa8M/iM0NIKU

大好きな二次創作が永遠に出来なくなってるｗ

61: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:06:38.26 ID:NhWkeF+2aNIKU

これAI推進派のなりすましやろ
ワイも虚カスのフリしてわざと必死貼らせる時あるわ

65: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:08:48.45 ID:sn+TnKTr0NIKU

二次創作って著作権法違反なんだよな
当たり前にみんなやってるのがおかしいんだよ

77: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:12:30.86 ID:yXXPx5+DaNIKU

>>65
最近はガイドラインあるとこもある

67: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:09:36.63 ID:bu3omu8LMNIKU

クリエイター面すんの草

70: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:10:41.45 ID:XRROXAaa0NIKU

これに懲りたらオリジナルに挑戦しようや
まだ若いんだしチャレンジ精神を持とう

71: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:11:01.90 ID:vVdST9WN0NIKU

ぼざろの二次創作なんて山ほどあるけどホンマに禁止されてんのか？

82: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:14:10.85 ID:sn+TnKTr0NIKU

>>71
出版社として禁止してるから、あとは告発するかどうかや
実際には問題が起きたときに、見せしめで訴えるかどうかって所やけど

73: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:11:44.65 ID:fTKvCOTg0NIKU

クリエイター気取りたいだけやろ
クリエイターでもYoutubeで生放送してる時にオリジナル同人誌割ってるのがバレたやつ居たけど干されてないしやりたい放題な業界やと思ってるわ

75: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:11:57.89 ID:pq80I79NMNIKU

>>73
しらびくん！？

81: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:13:38.36 ID:fTKvCOTg0NIKU

>>75
信者の肉の盾使ってるしイラスト業界はガチうんこやと思ってるわ

80: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:12:47.18 ID:Ty0NPuRI0NIKU

>>73
りゅうおうのおしごとの汚点やん

174: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:40:17.48 ID:/gGZsGEfaNIKU

>>73
でもあいつ場合実力は本物やからな
人間的に問題があっても能力があればある程度許される

79: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:12:41.28 ID:ZndU4qMe0NIKU

絶妙な画力がAIへの憎しみを感じさせてて好き

88: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:15:53.25 ID:wg4thlDV0NIKU

AIがゼンマイこうろぎ学習したらどうなるの？

94: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:17:00.21 ID:17LAOutB0NIKU

>>88
学習度合いによるやろうけど美少女にされるんじゃね

97: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:17:51.79 ID:wg4thlDV0NIKU

>>94
世界に平和が訪れそう

101: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:18:43.32 ID:sn+TnKTr0NIKU

>>94
イケオジになってて草

91: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:16:31.41 ID:PsYQrF8odNIKU

人間が学習して描く→OK
AIが学習して描く→駄目

この違いって何から来てるんや？学習スピード云々をよく言うけどそれならヒトの学習スピードが正義になる根拠がよくわからん

99: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:18:29.19 ID:UjgdHiOy0NIKU

>>91
ただの嫉妬や

105: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:19:28.62 ID:I2DVTmx1MNIKU

>>91
リスペクトらしいぞ

107: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:19:49.66 ID:17LAOutB0NIKU

>>91
暖かみがないよね

110: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:20:39.55 ID:SJPQ2d/p0NIKU

>>107
グラボアチアチやし十分温かいやろ

93: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:16:38.95 ID:5/iBt1Fg0NIKU

こんなのセルフ自殺やんけ

96: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:17:38.84 ID:39zAtERa0NIKU

草
せめて記者会見する前に整理しとけよ
突っ込まれるのは目に見えてるだろw

100: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:18:31.26 ID:17LAOutB0NIKU

>>96
ガチで自分は潔癖で正義の存在やと思っとったんやとおもうわ

138: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:31:29.58 ID:BwbYUFy2dNIKU

>>96
AI推進するためにわざとやってるとしか思えん

103: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:19:17.02 ID:9BamhLuZ0NIKU

これ面白いな
世の中のAI反対の絵師様の中で叩いて埃出ないやつどれくらいなんだろうか

104: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:19:28.32 ID:oVqHqmCp0NIKU

セコいエロ絵描きほどAI嫌ってるイメージが定着したわ

109: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:20:23.95 ID:5sbduKc2pNIKU

AI叩いてる絵師で二次創作で稼いだことが全くない奴どれくらいいるんだろ

115: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:24:21.74 ID:vzdvs7sz0NIKU

お詫びにある元の作品たちが大好きなのところが意味わからん
同じ作品を好きな人の中には作品を汚されたと感じる人もおるかもしれんやろ？
自分だけで楽しむなら好きにすりゃええと思うけど

121: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:26:09.19 ID:3so1hA8P0NIKU

この人みたいに罪の意識すら無いのってどのくらいおるんやろうな
ただのうっかりさんかも知らんけど

124: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:27:03.33 ID:pYyRqU0OdNIKU

pixivは供給過多になって1からフォロワーを伸ばすのがほぼ不可能になった模様
手書きで伸びてるのは固定ファンがおる奴だけ、AIで伸びてるのは初期から上げ続けてる奴だけ
悲惨や

128: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:28:37.10 ID:17LAOutB0NIKU

>>124
そういうのは人気有るジャンルの二次創作でフォロワ稼ぐんやで

130: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:28:50.69 ID:Qv1jkxOP0NIKU

漫画家がAI絵を添削

AI絵師さんマナーとしてなってないとブチギレ

漫画家謝罪

140: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:32:05.00 ID:GJBe3blJ0NIKU

眉毛を整える暇を惜しんで絵を創作する愛国烈士

142: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:32:57.45 ID:2PPib4kkaNIKU

絵が上手くなるにはどうしたらいいの？←模写しろ

いや無断学習やないかーい😂👆

145: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:33:29.64 ID:ENUGc28W0NIKU

最近作風を真似したとかいう理由で内閣府のポスター回収になってたけどああいうのアホくさいわ
しかも顔が似てる程度やったし

150: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:34:07.16 ID:GJBe3blJ0NIKU

151: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:34:20.03 ID:u6XuUH6/0NIKU

指で区別つくのでセーフ

159: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:36:40.71 ID:ON24UCAG0NIKU

自分の作品勝手に使われるって騒いでる絵師がどいつもこいつもAI学習されもしないレベルやんけ

167: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:38:27.30 ID:hLC02raeMNIKU

>>159

こういう奴らばっかりだし3人目のM Kって奴はAI使ってこんな事言ってるしな

10月以前の絵

10月頃急に変わる絵柄

指6本

173: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:39:57.24 ID:PlHjdDKd0NIKU

>>167
草

175: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:40:25.88 ID:Rs7VaG9nMNIKU

>>167
草

161: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:37:23.02 ID:kVBTYBBd0NIKU

漫画のアシスタントやってるけど結構漫画家の人はaiイラストに自分のラフ絵読み込ませて下書きとして使ってる人ちらほら見るわ

162: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:37:24.76 ID:jBd4fzI1MNIKU

なんで眉毛整えないんや

171: それでも動く名無し 2023/04/29(土) 14:39:39.35 ID:j79Rtb8d0NIKU

自分の主義主張を世の中に広めたいって人でなんで身だしなみ整えない人がいるのか不思議
見た目の印象って大事やしそれだけで好印象持たれるならやり得やろ

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